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Conversation with Dave Ramsey

Financial teacher and longtime friend Dave Ramsey joins Pastor Chuck Swindoll in our studio for this fourth episode of Living with Insight.

Dave Ramsey built a real estate portfolio, lost it all to bankruptcy, and rebuilt his life on what Scripture says about money—founding Ramsey Solutions, Financial Peace University, and The Ramsey Show to help people handle their money according to biblical principles.

But few know that Dave first met Chuck as a young believer in the 1980s. He found Insight for Living on the radio and ordered Insight for Living cassette tapes to listen to Chuck’s Bible teaching.

Now the two sit down for a wide-ranging conversation covering:

  1. Why the borrower is slave to the lender—and how debt freedom changes everything for a family or a ministry
  2. How God surprisingly led them to start ministries and take them beyond anything they imagined
  3. Why legacy is about stewardship, not ego—and the value of good succession planning
  4. The thread of redemption that God weaves through every season, even the ones we’re sure will ruin us

Grab a seat and enjoy the conversation.

8/3/2026

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About Living with Insight

In this new video series, join Pastor Chuck Swindoll as he visits with other seasoned shepherds of our faith. Their wide-ranging conversations cover lessons learned through hardship, handling difficult people, staying faithful in marriage, and much more. Grab a seat and enjoy the wisdom and humor shared.

About Chuck Swindoll

For most of his entire life, Pastor Charles R. Swindoll has devoted himself to the accurate, practical teaching and application of God's Word — anchoring every message in the transforming power of God's amazing grace. From congregations on the East Coast to the West Coast, his ministry has carried that message across the country, ultimately taking root in Frisco, Texas, where he founded Stonebriar Community Church. Yet Chuck's influence has never been confined to a single sanctuary. Since 1979, Chuck’s messages have aired on Insight for Living, one of the most widely heard programs in Christian broadcasting, carrying his voice — and the timeless truth of Scripture — to listeners around the world. That same passion for God's Word has shaped his leadership at Dallas Theological Seminary, where his tenure as president and now chancellor emeritus has helped raise up a new generation of men and women equipped and called to ministry. Few lives have touched so many, across so many places, for so long.

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