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Greg Laurie and Chuck Swindoll on Navigating Life’s Heartbreaks

For many years, Greg Laurie and Pastor Chuck Swindoll have been friends who have ministered together and carry deep regard for one another. Now they sit down to reflect on what God has taught them along the way.

Greg Laurie serves as the senior pastor of Harvest Christian Fellowship in California and is a respected author, evangelist, and crusade leader across the country.

While Chuck and Greg share plenty of fun stories, they also become vulnerable. They share their testimonies, including the difficult childhoods that God used to shape them in profound ways. Both experienced an unexpected call into ministry and have been used in ways they least expected. Nevertheless, they weren’t immune to tragedy. Greg shares how the loss of his son took him into some dark places, but God was faithful to carry him through it all.

You’ll walk away with the tools to have:

  1. the humility to step aside and let God take control
  2. a deeper understanding of how God uses heartbreak to build compassion and depth
  3. a new appreciation for the importance of simplicity and vulnerability in ministry
  4. practical wisdom for sharing our unchanging gospel with a culture that's changed dramatically

Hear how God’s hand is on your life no matter what season you’re going through.

7/16/2026

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About Chuck Swindoll

For most of his entire life, Pastor Charles R. Swindoll has devoted himself to the accurate, practical teaching and application of God's Word — anchoring every message in the transforming power of God's amazing grace. From congregations on the East Coast to the West Coast, his ministry has carried that message across the country, ultimately taking root in Frisco, Texas, where he founded Stonebriar Community Church. Yet Chuck's influence has never been confined to a single sanctuary. Since 1979, Chuck’s messages have aired on Insight for Living, one of the most widely heard programs in Christian broadcasting, carrying his voice — and the timeless truth of Scripture — to listeners around the world. That same passion for God's Word has shaped his leadership at Dallas Theological Seminary, where his tenure as president and now chancellor emeritus has helped raise up a new generation of men and women equipped and called to ministry. Few lives have touched so many, across so many places, for so long.

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Insight for Living

Post Office Box 5000

Frisco, Texas 75034

USA

Phone Number

1-800-772-8888